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How to pick up the code for the subsequent development of the system without the participation of onebox

Title: Nude food
Goals:
- rewrite the programming language (from php to another (to increase the speed of data processing)
- have all the existing (basic for all clients) functionality of onebox and all the improvements made
- develop the code with your team of programmers in the personal interests of our and related businesses
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End goal: get the code
More than 90% of the system was finalized by us
Basic functionality is almost non-existent.
In order to make sure the words are true, open our system and its settings back
04.07.2022, 11:01
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Dear Customer!
1. Your MVP version system is installed on your server, you have access to the code and you can fix it, finish it as you like.
2. But, you cannot replicate the system and sell/rent it to third parties under your own brand or the OneBox brand. This prohibits the license agreement in plain text.
3. Can you rewrite the system in another programming language by looking at OneBox's code - in theory, yes, the code is open and it's not forbidden. Get your system and you can do whatever you want with it. Whether you can do it - I'm not sure, after all, we have been sawing OneBox for 17+ years and I understand what hell it is.
4. If you want to replicate the system under your own brand, you will have to COMPLETELY change the interface. I just went to the Nudefood box - visually it's still the same OneBox MVP. Therefore, it is impossible to replicate in this form.
5. There is basic functionality in your box, you don’t even need to argue here: calendar, contacts, orders - everything is from the base box.
6. If there is an element of the OneBox code (layout, back-end) with the replicated system - it is impossible.
In summary, how to solve this issue:
Option 1 - $500,000 and you have full rights to OneBox MVP.
Option 2 - rewrite the code completely, absolutely all, so that not a single line from OneBox.
Option 3 - become a OneBox OS partner, build your industry solution on our infrastructure, pay the "cost" for OneBox infrastructure, sell and replicate your industry solution as much as you want. You can use your own brand.
Details here https://1b.app/ru/partner/
Thank you.
04.07.2022, 11:59
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And by the way, describe what you changed in the code.
Because we compare with our git - and not a line of code has changed there, except for the new node_modules directory
04.07.2022, 12:52
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Over the past 3-3.5 years, we have made software improvements in our system, with a total cost of + - 20 thousand $
04.07.2022, 21:14
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#153911 wrote:
Over the past 3-3.5 years, we have made software improvements in our system, with a total cost of + - 20 thousand $

If you made improvements yourself - they are yours, no problem.
If you made improvements through OneBox - then, sorry, but you only have the rights to use it.
And I spend $300-500K a year on OneBox development. So what? :)
In any case, this does not change the first answer in any way.
04.07.2022, 23:45
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If you read my first comment again, then your last message does not contradict it in any way.
Again, I'm interested in the personal use of improvements and their logic. I don't need yours.
05.07.2022, 02:10
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#153911 wrote:
If you read my first comment again, then your last message does not contradict it in any way.
Again, I'm interested in the personal use of improvements and their logic. I don't need yours.

I will answer again:
1. If you made your own improvements, they are yours, you have all the copyrights on them.
2. If you ordered these improvements from OneBox, then they are ours, and you only have the right to use them.
3. You can use your OneBox with your modifications for as long as you want and in any way, except for replication.
A simple analogy: you bought a car, tuned it beyond recognition. The car is yours - no one will take it away from you. But you cannot replicate it, you do not have the right to claim this car under your brand that you invented it.
But, you can continue to buy a car from the automaker for each, tune it to the client and sell further at a higher price.
For example, this is how AMG, Alpina, Mansory, etc. work.
And it is this scheme that I offer you on OneBox OS.
05.07.2022, 11:24
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Greetings
I contacted the hosting: I can't connect with login and password
ssh key needed
07.07.2022, 19:24
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For a full transfer, we will need a list of documents:
1. List of what is transmitted
- the code
- database access
- Docker containers (if any)
- product documentation
(TK, a list of improvements that were made for an additional fee)
2. Instructions for local launch
- step by step instructions on how to run locally on Windows OS, Ubuntu OS, MacOs
3. Access to their server (reference to previous post)
4. The act of receiving the transfer
- indicating what \ when \ to whom they are transferred
07.07.2022, 19:34
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OneBox CORP OneBox CORP
Personal license
Dear client, we are ready to transfer the rights to the OneBox MVP software product to you. You will have the right to resell and replicate under any brand other than OneBox. The cost of such a transaction is 500,000 USD. Attached account. Contact us after payment.
07.07.2022, 21:17
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What a joke?
I don't need product rights
I want to take my system and use it for my business
I do not pursue commercial goals
07.07.2022, 23:32
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Please send the contract signed by me to my mail:
maxdodul@gmail.com
For details
07.07.2022, 23:40
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#153911 wrote:
What a joke?
I don't need product rights
I want to take my system and use it for my business
I do not pursue commercial goals

Well, so it is already on your server, take it and use it.
We do not and will not provide any documentation, acts, etc.
What is not clear here?
08.07.2022, 10:29
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I feel competitors will appear soon, the monopoly does not help to develop ....
08.07.2022, 14:38
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does boxing have a monopoly on the crm market? O_o
08.07.2022, 15:18
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Miroshnichenko Maxim
OneBox CEO wrote:

#153911 wrote:
What a joke?
I don't need product rights
I want to take my system and use it for my business
I do not pursue commercial goals

Well, so it is already on your server, take it and use it.
We do not and will not provide any documentation, acts, etc.
What is not clear here?

1. I want to make improvements in my system, which lies on the server that your team advised and I used it on this recommendation;
2. To make improvements, you need to take the system code;
3. To get the system code, you need an SSH key.
Give SSH key or email
And throw the contract that we signed with you to my mail indicated above.
08.07.2022, 17:24
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The server is yours, the code is on it. We do not have access to your server.
We do not have the right to send a copy of the contract to an unknown address.
08.07.2022, 17:35
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Miroshnichenko Maxim
OneBox CEO wrote:
The server is yours, the code is on it. We do not have access to your server.
We do not have the right to send a copy of the contract to an unknown address.

here is the mail to which Cyril sent documents to me in 2019:
silentnite92@mail.ru
08.07.2022, 19:44
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Miroshnichenko Maxim
OneBox CEO wrote:
The server is yours, the code is on it. We do not have access to your server.
We do not have the right to send a copy of the contract to an unknown address.

or tell me what documents identifying my personality should be sent to you and to what address in order to receive the contract that we concluded with you on nudefood
08.07.2022, 19:45
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Dear client (probably client), let's explain everything as it is.
I would address you by name, but, unfortunately, I do not know it.
Do not take it for a banter, I continue without jokes and with respect.
Given:
- From a completely unknown phone number, an unknown person is contacting, who claims that a certain Nudefood box is his.
- He says that he wants to take the code and continue to cut his CRM / ERP, while, presumably, boxing is already on his server.
- Asks for access to the server (which should only be available to him).
- He asks to send him a copy of his contract by mail.
- He asks to tell what details were indicated in the contract so that we can identify him.
Our position:
1. Perhaps this request is a scam in order to seize access to the server, this happens. Therefore, we simply will not suggest what is in the details of the contract and whose box is actually. We will prompt something = we will help to seize access to a third-party server. And we don't need it.
2. Globally, we are not interested in customers who think they can take OneBox, customize it, and then consider it their product with all property rights. Simply because we have no benefit from this. That is why, under all license agreements, we transfer to the customer the right to use and only the right to use.
3. Due to the fact that we are officially ending support for OneBox MVP after 6 months -onebox-mvp-ta-rannih-versiy/ ), we'd better not touch all old clients on MVP or ancient versions and work only with those who are ready to switch to OneBox OS. Did the client lose the contract? Well, great, less problems with abandoning the MVP.
09.07.2022, 22:39
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Miroshnichenko Maxim
OneBox CEO wrote:
Dear client (probably client), let's explain everything as it is.
I would address you by name, but, unfortunately, I do not know it.
Do not take it for a banter, I continue without jokes and with respect.
Given:
- From a completely unknown phone number, an unknown person is contacting, who claims that a certain Nudefood box is his.
- He says that he wants to take the code and continue to cut his CRM / ERP, while, presumably, boxing is already on his server.
- Asks for access to the server (which should only be available to him).
- He asks to send him a copy of his contract by mail.
- He asks to tell what details were indicated in the contract so that we can identify him.
Our position:
1. Perhaps this request is a scam in order to seize access to the server, this happens. Therefore, we simply will not suggest what is in the details of the contract and whose box is actually. We will prompt something = we will help to seize access to a third-party server. And we don't need it.
2. Globally, we are not interested in customers who think they can take OneBox, customize it, and then consider it their product with all property rights. Simply because we have no benefit from this. That is why, under all license agreements, we transfer to the customer the right to use and only the right to use.
3. Due to the fact that we are officially ending support for OneBox MVP after 6 months -onebox-mvp-ta-rannih-versiy/ ), we'd better not touch all old clients on MVP or ancient versions and work only with those who are ready to switch to OneBox OS. Did the client lose the contract? Well, great, less problems with abandoning the MVP.

My name is Maxim Dodul, I wrote to Artyom in telegrams, thanks to which you changed access to the forum for a while. I also referred to Kirill, who in 2019 came to the office of our company at Oleksi Tikhogo 90. No one could know about this. Also, at the request of the leaders, and I assume yours as well, a Skype call was organized in the year 20, where I was asked questions from different positions in your company about what I, as a client, would like to improve in your company or what I lack.
And now I have a problem finding an agreement, since with the start of the war we gave 200 square meters of our kitchen and almost all, more than 800 thousand UAH, the proceeds for the needs of our army. In the process of volunteering, the document was lost. The number for which the contract was registered is 093 928 16 88.
And it’s not clear to me what the problem is to do the same thing that you previously did with another client - you gave the system code for further finishing with your own hands, because the complexity of working with your company is simple:
- dates unclear
- the ability to service the system for no more than 1.5 hours a day by the hands of an integrator
- any visual changes to the system are overkill
If you do not pay attention to the infantile impregnation of a middle-aged person, then everything that you wrote "without jokes and with respect" shows your attitude towards past clients. It's just disrespectful on all sides.
10.07.2022, 20:42
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I have access to tailing. I need to understand how to get this SSH certificate and get answers to questions:
one.
- database access
- Docker containers (if any)
- product documentation
(TK, a list of improvements that were made for an additional fee)
2. Instructions for local launch
- step by step instructions on how to run locally on Windows OS, Ubuntu OS, MacOs
3. The act of receiving the transfer
- indicating what \ when \ to whom they are transferred
10.07.2022, 20:44
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Maksim,
1. From 2017 to 2021, I was not the director of OneBox and did not work at OneBox at all. During this period, Dmitry Levoshich was the director.
Therefore, I definitely was not with you at the meeting.
2. At the moment OneBox is ON YOUR SERVER and we DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
Well, we can't give you an SSH key, we don't have one.
Ask the host or ask him to reset root access.
3. We have never given anyone and will not give any documentation to the code and instructions for launching.
Because we don't have it. We don't deploy anything manually. We don't have any dockers.
Our deployment procedure is completely different: we stupidly clone a virtual machine in a cloud DC.
Twice there was a situation where the client wanted the documentation and instructions for launching so badly that they even sent messengers in caps for me. And still he didn’t get it: how can you get something that doesn’t exist.
What can I recommend:
- Reset access from the host
- access to mysql in engine.mode.php
- just copy nginx, mysql, php configs
4. I will ask that all contracts and acts that exist between us be sent to your mail.
5. About "no jokes and with respect", you are just in vain. At the very beginning of this thread, I quite politely suggested to you:
> Option 3 - Become a OneBox OS partner, build your industry solution on our infrastructure, pay the "cost" for the OneBox infrastructure, sell and replicate your industry solution as much as you want. You can use your own brand. Details here https://1b.app/ru/partner/
But you continue to drown "I want to take what I have and further develop it." You have only one MVP license, one user. Do you really think that we will help you give it away so that you can replicate it further?
11.07.2022, 00:32
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